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first, the fun stuff -another image from the shoot with river



and now, the life-stuff:

i've been working pretty hard on the dammasch show in november. i'm making huge image files for the new printer, and on tuesday, i had a get together in my back yard to stuff a bunch of little sewn forms i made out of the curtains gathered from dammasch. i had a great time with those who came and also really appreciated the help. i will probably have another "come and help me stuff it" party in october; i hope it's as much fun as this one was.

i woke up today and knew i was going to cancel my april show if i don't get the grant. i see it this way:

1. i spent 10 years busting my ass making installations, have received maybe 5 good sized reviews (not a ton, but enough) and a whole bunch of silly one-paragraph deals. meaning: i have a proven track record of doing well, following through, etc.

2. i have never made a penny on any of my installations.

3. i'm 50. meaning: i'm tool old to be PAYING TO WORK.

4. the dammasch project scheduled for april will cost a butt-load and NOT BE MARKETABLE. it is intellectual property/sociopolitical commentary, as opposed to being "beautiful" artwork fitting for display behind someone's couch.

5. i just got another show in may at guardino gallery. THAT will also cost both time and money and promises some return. i will be showing with a glass artist named andy paiko. look how kewl his stuff is:



this is a "spine jar". kinda works with my images as i have bones in a number of them. he's also created functional measuring devices, all out of glass. a seismograph, for example, and a balance.

anyhoo...thoughts before beginning work...
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From:el_jefe59
Date:September 14th, 2006 04:10 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, paying to work totally sucks. I don't blame you for not wanting to do it anymore.

I like the new image of Rober and I like the spine jar, too!
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From:kat_manson
Date:September 14th, 2006 06:35 pm (UTC)
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thanks jeff!
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From:el_jefe59
Date:September 14th, 2006 06:37 pm (UTC)
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I meant River. How the hell did I type Rober? I really need to proofread before I hit send. Sorry about that.
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From:kat_manson
Date:September 14th, 2006 06:40 pm (UTC)
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i knew whtacha meant!
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From:el_jefe59
Date:September 14th, 2006 07:12 pm (UTC)
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I'm glad!
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From:metahara
Date:September 14th, 2006 04:31 pm (UTC)
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1. me too
2. me too
3. I'm a 40 yr. old single mom
4. I'm editing the documentation of the womens spiritual retreat that i captured with 2 shitty cameras for free today - for free...cause I volunteered and it could lead to work that pays - really it could
5. i can so relate to all of this
and hope we bith learn to ask for money for our work more often than not.
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From:kat_manson
Date:September 14th, 2006 06:37 pm (UTC)
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i'm askin'! i'm askin'!
just waiting for the regional arts and culture council to see that my work has value and should be funded.
the other stuff sells...sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly. it's all good.
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From:xrayzerase
Date:September 14th, 2006 05:19 pm (UTC)
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great image.
i just hope you get that grant....
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From:kat_manson
Date:September 14th, 2006 06:40 pm (UTC)
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ME TOO!!
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From:sa_har
Date:September 14th, 2006 07:56 pm (UTC)
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Paying to work is always so wrong! But you do beautiful things, this means a lot, even if it's not material I think it's rewarding :)
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From:kat_manson
Date:September 15th, 2006 04:03 am (UTC)
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i agree. sometimes it's just hard to keep going when you have to go in debt.
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From:pondhopper
Date:September 14th, 2006 08:35 pm (UTC)
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Compared to so many of your friends here I am so far removed from the world of art as to be completely ignorant of its inner workings so all I can say is I like this River pic VERY much and hope you get the grant.
:)
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From:kat_manson
Date:September 15th, 2006 04:06 am (UTC)
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the inner workings of the artworld are, actually, a little more complex than one might think. i operate within two systems: not-for-profits & universities, and market-oriented galleries. they do different things. i'm very, very tired of the former. lots and lots of work. you go in debt. and there's little return.

i have to think more about my money. i'm 50. no partner. no savings. hmmm...can you see trouble coming? i can.
:)
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From:pondhopper
Date:September 15th, 2006 07:39 pm (UTC)
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Not having a pension of any sort to look forward to myself...not even social security since I never lived in the US long enough to work for a long enough time...I can empathize.

I hope it all works our for you!
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From:jazzmo
Date:September 14th, 2006 09:44 pm (UTC)
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ah, Rapunzel with a attitude.
(understandable in that situation)

if i ever have an inkling what it takes
to make things livable
i will let you know

the gallery sounds promising,
the glass is unique & lovely, the gallery
looks like they have something working.
representation maybe? somewhere?

er, the last couple of images . . .
i can’t quite figure it out, but they don’t seem
to have that ‘directness’ (or something) i usually
see in your work. they are not giving me the
visceral feel i usually get from your stuff . . .
ok, just ignore me, it’s probably my own distractions
but i thought i would mention it. you would do the
same for me.


-j

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From:kat_manson
Date:September 15th, 2006 04:20 am (UTC)
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well, perhaps unbeknownst to you, YOUR SILENCE tells me how you feel about these images. you know, you don't have to like everything i make, jim. i don't know about the thing you said here, "visceral feel" -not all my work has a visceral edge. AAAAAND, this shoot was one i did for my mom. she has a sweet-piece that i kinda hate, but also kinda like at the same time. it's this one:



she requested a new work with same sort of vibe. i told her i'd do an eve-thing for her because she's christian and i thought she'd like that. that's how i popped out with the "redeeming eve" image -one of the silver gelatin prints i posted first.

i like these images. i also think they go with a lot of what i'm doing. they add another element...or something. and actually, the one with the single muddy hand in the foreground i really love.

so. i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on some things. you know, there's times when i'm silent, too.
:)
thanks for chiming in. i feel a little wacky when i don't hear from emmy lou.
&hearts
s
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From:jazzmo
Date:September 15th, 2006 02:44 pm (UTC)
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don’t take my silence for anything more than that. on occasion i do get quiet
and overly introspective once in a while. there are also times that it is
difficult to frame the words that articulate the thoughts and feelings
properly. even times that there are no appropriate words in the lexicon.
i try not to make comments that don’t have substance, except for those
times that call for a little silliness. (-:
and then there is that personal baggage we bring along when we look,
not to mention those times of distraction. i may not see things today
that i will see tomorrow.

i do like that image your mum likes, it has a very ‘nurturing’ feel to it.

i notices that second ‘eve’ piece hasn’t been censored yet. kewl.
(that one is sort of growing on me, sometimes i have to go back to
an image several times before i understand how i feel about it . . . weird.)

how boring if we agreed on everything. like vindaloo without the curry. (-;

&hearts -j

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From:kat_manson
Date:September 15th, 2006 06:08 pm (UTC)
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OMG! you're asking me to not draw conclusions? LOLOL!!! you gotta know me a little better than THAT!!

you don't always have to have a substantive thing to add...and to tell ya the truth, I LOVE YOUR SILLINESS. you can't see me on this side of the universe chuckling!

i also like the second eve image...i printed a good copy of it last night. and i hope my mom likes it, too, because i think i may have destroyed the one i think she will like the best.

so you know, people say that life is more interesting because we're different. i sometimes wonder if the EASE of agreement would outweigh the uncomfortable-ness of disagreement. prolly not. although people also say that i wouldn't love the summer so much without the context of winter. that's silly...i just don't believe that. it's a platitude that helps me survive the winter.

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From:nyodene_d
Date:September 15th, 2006 10:16 am (UTC)
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i'm sure somebody's already said this already(i'm too lazy to read through the comments right now), but that's so lame your artistic output has to be somewhat dictated by what's marketable. >sigh< BUT...that glass stuff looks so cool! that will be a fun show. anyway...i like that image of river. the contrast seems a little off, but that might be due to my sleepiness or inferior screen technology. :)
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From:kat_manson
Date:September 15th, 2006 06:01 pm (UTC)
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i think the contrast is gonna stay off. i do like the image. but i LIKE it, i don't love it.

i made, like, fucking FIFTY of these damn images. i burnt and dodged and trades filters, blah blah blah...this was the best print i got. it does look a little better in person. not so hot in the highlights. but it still isn't quite perfect.

kewl model, tho, Huh?
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From:nyodene_d
Date:September 15th, 2006 07:13 pm (UTC)
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yeah, she's really great. what a good find!

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